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Forum topic by mzimmers posted 06-02-2018 03:11 PM 977 views 0 times favorited 24 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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mzimmers

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06-02-2018 03:11 PM

Hi all -

Last year, I moved back to California (following the work). I didn’t know what my housing situation would be like, so I sold most of my large shop tools. I need to get a table saw. It will be used for various home upgrades as well as woodworking projects.

I can’t break the bank, as money’s still a little tight, so I was looking at the Dewalt DWE7491RS.

Any opinions on this or competing saws would be appreciate…thanks.

-- M. Zimmers


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GR8HUNTER

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#1 posted 06-02-2018 03:20 PM

for me ….. this saw would not work well … do you need the portability ? :<))

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mzimmers

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#2 posted 06-02-2018 03:21 PM

Hi Hunter – no, I don’t need the portability. Why would this saw not meet your needs?

-- M. Zimmers

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GR8HUNTER

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#3 posted 06-02-2018 03:54 PM

not enough power … I hope Brad chimes in on this post … maybe THIS will help :<))

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mzimmers

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#4 posted 06-02-2018 05:09 PM

That’s a great article. I realize I’m very much in a compromising situation here—I’d love to have a cabinet saw, but that’s just not possible right now. And the used market is dismal in this area: look at these clunkers:

used table saws

And I can’t wait much longer—I have some projects that demand attention. I realize the Dewalt isn’t a powerhouse, but it seems competitive in its class. I was just hoping to hear from others who found themselves in a position similar to mine.

-- M. Zimmers

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TheFridge

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#5 posted 06-02-2018 05:19 PM

The so called clunkers have the most value. I’d buy the first 2 listed and at least another in the Bay Area as well.

I paid 700$ and 450$ for 2 clunkers and haven’t even begun to sell the 2 fences and other parts no longer needed to recoup some costs.

Either one will stomp the dick of just about any other saw out.

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knotscott

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#6 posted 06-02-2018 05:23 PM


Hi Hunter – no, I don t need the portability. Why would this saw not meet your needs?

- mzimmers

You give up a lot for the sake of portability….mass, stability, space in front of the blade, torque, upgradability, reliability, etc. I’d look for a used full size saw with a belt drive induction motor, and preferably a good fence….fence is a relatively easy upgrade though, but budget at least $200 budget if the saw needs a fence.

https://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/tls/d/craftsman-table-saw-with-vega/6605888767.html

https://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/tls/d/craftsman-table-saw/6604460140.html

https://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/tls/d/delta-10-table-saw-with-extras/6600869049.html?

fence only $100 – https://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/tls/d/delta-precision-saw-guide/6601098945.html

https://sfbay.craigslist.org/pen/tls/d/powermatic-table-saw/6604165326.html

Unisaw $400 – https://sacramento.craigslist.org/tls/d/delta-unisaw/6601907065.html

Delta contractor saw w/Biese $400 – https://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/tls/d/delta-contractors-table-saw/6601152090.html

Ridgid 2424 $150 – https://sacramento.craigslist.org/tls/d/table-saw/6604018835.html

https://sacramento.craigslist.org/tls/d/delta-10-inch-contractor-sawhp/6600355121.html

https://sacramento.craigslist.org/tls/d/10-craftsman-contractor-table/6586725356.html

https://merced.craigslist.org/tls/d/craftsman-10-inch-table-saw/6593044207.html

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ArtMann

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#7 posted 06-02-2018 05:30 PM

I would agree that you should buy an older cabinet saw if it is available but the fact is that many markets do not have any such saws for sale. Where Around here you see old cabinet saws come up for sale at maybe one or two per year and they are typically over priced. If you have to but new, at least shoot for a stationary belt driven contractor’s saw or possibly a hybrid style. The light weight portable saws like the one you linked to sacrifice power, capacity, stability and noise just for portability. Those direct drive universal motors are L-O-U-D.

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thimmaker

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#8 posted 06-02-2018 06:11 PM

I would go for the 20 dollar Craftsman. Same saw iv’e been using for 56 years. Double cast iron extensions and a built in router table on one end that uses the same guide bar as the saw. Changed bearings one time (still available} and a home made vacuum system underneath. If I were closer I would buy it for parts.

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#9 posted 06-02-2018 06:27 PM


I can t break the bank, as money s still a little tight, so I was looking at the Dewalt DWE7491RS.

Any opinions on this or competing saws would be appreciate…thanks.

- mzimmers

Even in the CL ads you posted for Monterey there were a number of Craftsman Contractor saws that would come in much below the $499 price I saw for your DeWalt. If you are starting out you could use as is, they are functional, just not optimal as they come. Their biggest retrofits are new fences, and blade protection. If at 1.5 HP it’s getting the work you want done, you may want to upgrade for both fence, and guard/dust collection.

If it is possible look locally at Schools, and Adult Education near you. IIRC there was something in your back yard a few years ago. I know there is near SF. It may be VERY beneficial to see a few of the different types of TS’s work, and would be the best way for you get hands on with them.

Another thought is make a new post using your Zip code, and asking any members here. can I come look at your TS. You may be able to see the entire field. Again hands on, and if done in a non sales atmosphere, you will likely get more honest appraisals from owners.

Good luck looking.

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Loren

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#10 posted 06-02-2018 07:32 PM

I’ve found an old clunker of a contractor saw
cuts better than a portable. There’s more mass
under the hood to dampen vibration.

If you’re just doing carpentry it probably doesn’t
matter but if you want to cut joinery and
stuff like that a saw with a cast iron top and
3/4” miter slots is not so difficult to tune up
well enough to do the job. You can also use
magnetic accessories on cast iron.

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BroncoBrian

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#11 posted 06-02-2018 08:11 PM

I would hunt down a used Festool TS55 before buying a low-end table saw.

As others have said, a rough looking old cabinet saw has more potential to be a real workhorse for you without too much work. Don’t be fooled thinking that you have to buy the accessories for the old saw that you would not need for a new low-end saw.

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NoSpace

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#12 posted 06-02-2018 11:43 PM

I have a similar DeWalt and it’s all I’ve ever known. With a good blade and a way to control feeding larger sheets of plywood, if you need that for your home improvement stuff, I don’t see how it would ever be a problem.

When it comes to hardwoods, that’s a different story. I wouldn’t rip 3/4” maple or walnut with it; it might get through clean but it will leave burn marks. 1/2” is fine. I use a bandsaw for everything I can and so TS is basically for crosscuts and cleaning up edges.

If you don’t have space/resources for a bandsaw/jointer/planer, then hardwoods are for the most part out of consideration anyway, and the DeWalt should work great for anything you’d ever need with softwoods/sheetgood projects.

I’d love to get a real tablesaw, but the jobsite saw is on a platform with a planer underneath and so I’m saving a lot of room. Until I hit the project that can’t be done with it then the DeWalt it is.

Oh, the one other consideration would be noise. As mentioned on the thread, the DeWalt is incredibly loud. I don’t know how much quieter a cabinet or solid contractor saw is, if someone could convince me it is substantial, then that might be enough sacrifice the space.

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AlaskaGuy

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#13 posted 06-02-2018 11:49 PM

Why not buy the same as you sold. You’d know what you’re getting that way.

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knotscott

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#14 posted 06-03-2018 12:10 AM


...Oh, the one other consideration would be noise. As mentioned on the thread, the DeWalt is incredibly loud. I don t know how much quieter a cabinet or solid contractor saw is, if someone could convince me it is substantial, then that might be enough sacrifice the space.

- NoSpace

Without a blade, a belt drive induction motor is incredibly quiet. Basically just a low hum…like a ceiling fan, unless there’s a belt problem. The majority of noise comes from wind noise of the blade, which varies with each unique blade.

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pete724

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#15 posted 06-08-2018 05:11 AM

Depends on the kind of work you will do and how much.

The dewalt “jobsite” saws are fantastic IN THIER CLASS.
They are accurate. the fence once aligned stays aligned.
The fence locks down front and rear.
These saws will take a PARTIAL dado but NOT FULL 3/4” SET.
I use an Sbox8 set on mine.
There is not enough table in front of the blade but this is partially overcomeable:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-UzgEROn4DI

Hearing protection is a MUST.

If you need to do a LOT of cutting or much large hardwood get a better saw.
Softwoods ,small things, just hobby use – great saw get it.

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