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Forum topic by awsum55 posted 06-10-2018 08:17 PM 892 views 0 times favorited 23 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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awsum55

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06-10-2018 08:17 PM

I am thinking about getting a Wynn canister filter and I saw they have one they recommend for home shops that have a MERV 10 rating that costs about $140. Do any of you have this one? It looks like the one that is MERV 15 which costs $209 is for commercial use. I don’t want to waste my money and get one I’ll want to replace, but I also don’t want to spend more money than necessary to solve my dust problem. Any help would be appreciated, thanks.

-- John D, OP, KS


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Rick Dennington

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#1 posted 06-10-2018 11:39 PM

I’m not familiar with the Merv 10 filter you’re talking about…But I do have a Wynn filter for my dust collector that I bought several years back….I use it on my old Delta d.c., and it works good…I think it may be called a Wynn 30 (?)...I had to build a “doughnut” for it to sit on, then clamped it from the inside to hold it in place… I think I paid about $ 110 or 20 for it…...Here’s a picture of the one I have mounted on the dust collector…...I hope this is what you’re asking about…..!!

-- " It's a rat race out there, and the rats are winning....!!"

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WhyMe

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#2 posted 06-10-2018 11:56 PM

Look at this merv chart and decide what you would want. I use a merv 15.

https://www.coolray.com/img/uploads/What_does_MERV_Rating_mean.pdf

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awsum55

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#3 posted 06-11-2018 06:39 AM

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The first one mentioned (80/20 Blend) is the Merv 10 version and I’ve highlighted the part that made me post this question.


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This one mentions that it is a good filter


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This last one shows the price difference between the cheapest and most expensive

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-- John D, OP, KS

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#4 posted 06-11-2018 11:14 AM

I would suggest going with a MERV 15 as it will take out a lot more of the really fine dust that you can’t even see. You should also check to see how much pressure drop it has, as that will affect your current set up. There are a number of home made paddle arrangements that work fairly well as well day-to-day with intermittent compressed air cleaning.

-- Earl "I'm a pessamist - generally that increases the chance that things will turn out better than expected"

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#5 posted 06-11-2018 11:55 AM

I have two of the NANO filters (MERV 15) for my ClearVue. They work great.

I recently bought a Dylos air quality monitor, and the level of small and large particles in the air is normally very low while I’m using my cyclone (depending on the operation; some table saw operations are harder than others to get get good dust collection.) The worst operation is sweeping with a broom; man do the count get crazy high.

I would recommend spending the extra for the better filters.

-- John

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#6 posted 06-11-2018 12:03 PM

I have a MERV 15 setup that came with my ClearVue system. Three years of use and I am pleased with the performance and durability. Tap/blow the filter from outside whenever I empty the collector bin and I’ve not had any problems to speak of. I’ll second what Earl said, while housekeeping is definitely helped by particle/dust collection; the really fine dust is what you need to be concerned about from a health standpoint.
Good luck in your project.

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#7 posted 06-11-2018 12:23 PM

I also have the Merv 15 Wynn filters, and can’t say enough good things about them. While I highly recommend you go with Merv 15, I do have another suggestion. Penn State Industries still sells replacement filters for their now discontinued cyclones. I've bought 2 of these for my now displaced Oneida, and find they are excellent quality (USA made by Clark Filters in PA), very well built, Merv 15, and a little cheaper. You may even find a 10% discount offer pop up at the PSI website. Check the dimensions and see if it’s suitable for your use, it might be a very good substitute.

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#8 posted 06-11-2018 01:44 PM

I purchased a Merv 15 made by Donaldson that ended up being cheaper than the Wynn. You will need to do some modifications to get it to mount though. Model P181038 fit my situation best. Some folks have also used a P181099.

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#9 posted 06-11-2018 03:46 PM

Go Donaldson as above. They are all I use now. They have two big advantages, namely they are cheaper and they are available in every almost city so you don’t need to wait or pay shipping. Merv 15 is merv 15.

-- Paul M ..............the early bird may get the worm but it’s the second mouse that gets the cheese! http://thecanadianschooloffrenchmarquetry.com/

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awsum55

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#10 posted 06-11-2018 09:09 PM

I needed to follow up on this for everyone’s benefit. I called a place that sells parts for freightliners and got a price of $163.28 for this Donaldson unit below, but it was not in stock. The Wynn filter was almost $220 with shipping.

I called another place and got a price of $141.63, but it was also not in stock. So because there was a fairly big difference in price I called a third place and got a price of $116.74 and with tax it comes to $126.63 and I can pick it up, but it is also not stocked and will take 7-10 days to order. I have no problem waiting a week to save some money.

I also found out you can order it through O’Reilly Auto Parts, and they told me they would price match if I could find it cheaper and their price was $234.66. I told them what I found it for and they pay $3 more than I could buy it for. Moral of the story is YOU HAVE TO SHOP AROUND! I’m going to use the $90+ to buy something else I want for the shop.

I hope this helps someone else as I have received so much help from others on this site, it would be nice to give some back. I’ll be ordering one tonight. It’s slightly smaller than the Wynn, but if it works for others, it will work for me. Thanks to everyone for the help.

-- John D, OP, KS

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#11 posted 06-11-2018 10:36 PM

Interesting to know what the MERV rating is on a truck filter.

It says 99.9% efficiency but what size particle?

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#12 posted 06-11-2018 10:41 PM

I have a Wynn filter and it works great. However, the Donaldson also looks like a winner. After looking through their website I have a few questions, just out of curiosity. I didn’t find anywhere that equated the P181038 to Merv 15. I probably missed it or failed to do the math from the specs. Is it really a Merv 15 rated filter? Also, I am curious about the actual construction of the filter. If I understand it correctly, these filters are designed for airflow from outside through to the inside of the filter. That is the opposite of a dust collector filter. The filter efficiency shouldn’t matter, but I wonder about periodic cleanings. With the Wynn and similar filters they are designed to be cleaned with a compressed air blast from the outside. Does this work as well with the Donaldson or is there something about the structural supports on the interior that interfere with the process? I sure would like to compare one of each side by side! When the Wynn finally gives up the ghost (hopefully never) I wouldn’t mind saving a few bucks on the Donaldson. Anyone with the Donaldson have cleaning experience to share?

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shipwright

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#13 posted 06-11-2018 11:57 PM

I’ve been running Donaldson’s on my big DC at home in Canada for a few years, occasionally cleaning it with compressed air. They eventually need replacing because of buildup but no sooner than the Wynn that I had in Az. before I changed over to Donaldson there too.
Yes they are merv 15.
As an aside I added a super dust deputy to my Az. system this year. It’s based on a HF DC and I don’t think I will be changing the filter for a very long time. Those things work!

-- Paul M ..............the early bird may get the worm but it’s the second mouse that gets the cheese! http://thecanadianschooloffrenchmarquetry.com/

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awsum55

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#14 posted 06-12-2018 02:52 AM

Also, I am curious about the actual construction of the filter. If I understand it correctly, these filters are designed for airflow from outside through to the inside of the filter. That is the opposite of a dust collector filter. The filter efficiency shouldn’t matter, but I wonder about periodic cleanings. With the Wynn and similar filters they are designed to be cleaned with a compressed air blast from the outside. Does this work as well with the Donaldson or is there something about the structural supports on the interior that interfere with the process?

I guess because the paper is folded like an accordion, it would work the same in either direction. The fact that the Donaldson has the grille on the inside as well as the outside can only help when your are blowing air from out to in. I imagine that is why the Wynn filters have the grille on the outside to keep from blowing out the pleats. The truck one has both sides because of the reverse air flow in a vehicle. At least that is how I see it.

They say it will take a week to 10 days and I’ll get back on to report once I make the donut and install the filter.

-- John D, OP, KS

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Kazooman

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#15 posted 06-12-2018 12:03 PM


Also, I am curious about the actual construction of the filter. If I understand it correctly, these filters are designed for airflow from outside through to the inside of the filter. That is the opposite of a dust collector filter. The filter efficiency shouldn’t matter, but I wonder about periodic cleanings. With the Wynn and similar filters they are designed to be cleaned with a compressed air blast from the outside. Does this work as well with the Donaldson or is there something about the structural supports on the interior that interfere with the process?

I guess because the paper is folded like an accordion, it would work the same in either direction. The fact that the Donaldson has the grille on the inside as well as the outside can only help when your are blowing air from out to in. I imagine that is why the Wynn filters have the grille on the outside to keep from blowing out the pleats. The truck one has both sides because of the reverse air flow in a vehicle. At least that is how I see it.

They say it will take a week to 10 days and I’ll get back on to report once I make the donut and install the filter.

- awsum55

When using compressed air to clean a Wynn filter you leave it in place on the dust collector and blow air through the filter from the outside keeping the dust contained. That is why I raised the question about the Donaldson filter. I have never seen one and didn’t know if the internal construction was such that cleaning would be less efficient. Shipwright has indicated that he cleans his with compressed air without any issues.


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