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Forum topic by Jack Lewis posted 06-14-2018 04:07 PM 1049 views 0 times favorited 19 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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Jack Lewis

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06-14-2018 04:07 PM

I took a newly finished bowl, to show it off, to a local watering hole here in the desert. That was after a good day in the shop. Well, a man has got to hydrate! A customer sitting next to me inquired, “Do you make those?” Everyone appreciates a favorable comment, don’t we? I replied affirmative and she proceeded to purchase it at my asking price. She then stated that her daughter or sister would try to talk it away from her. So, I gave her several business cards as reference to me as a source. Two weeks later I received an email requesting others to select from. I put together a zip file of a dozen similar items that I had completed in the past. Never really gave it much thought until two more weeks went by and she emailed wanting four of the samples, two each. Now some of these were not made from plans but were put together from leftover rings with a few made to fill out a design. So I had to sit down and reverse engineer them into my CAD program, develop a spreadsheet for a cutting list. Before I could begin she wrote again wanting two more. I had to match the ones completed so an order for 170 bd ft of supplies went into Pederman Lumber and it was delivered yesterday while the sun beat down at 107 degs. Stayed with it until it was stored away from the sunlight. Now delivery date stares me in the face, it is so hot that 3-4 hours in the shop is all this old body can take. Seven new bowls to make on a delivery table. Wasn’t this just a hobby?

This is what prompted my saying, “Suddenly it becomes work”.

-- "PLUMBER'S BUTT! Get over it, everybody has one"


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TheDane

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#1 posted 06-14-2018 04:11 PM

Sounds like you have a job … again!

A couple of years ago, my wife asked me if I could turn her a yarn bowl. Why, yes, honey. She showed it to her friends at the yarn shop, and now I have done 52 of them!

Had a job once … didn’t like it, and never planned on doing it again.

-- Gerry -- "I don't plan to ever really grow up ... I'm just going to learn how to act in public!"

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Gene Howe

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#2 posted 06-14-2018 04:35 PM

Jack, looks like you’re gonna have to install an AC.
The monsoons are coming, though. We’ll still be hot but, at least it’ll be a wet heat.
Nevertheless, congrats on the new J.O.B.

-- Gene 'The true soldier fights not because he hates what is in front of him, but because he loves what is behind him.' G. K. Chesterton

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BB1

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#3 posted 06-14-2018 04:55 PM

I hope you are able to complete that order without too much stress. Having a demand for your bowls is a very nice compliment. Woodworking for me is a hobby. I’ve done one project that was requested by someone else (they just paid for the wood/supplies that I used). Someone commented that I could probably sell similar items but then I fear my hobby would not be the stress relief that it is for me right now.

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Gerald Thompson

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#4 posted 06-14-2018 08:00 PM

My wife and I made 8 1840 Shaker Clocks. They were gifts but we were sick and tired of clocks by the time we got done. I would hate to be under the gun to get a project(s) done. That is work.

-- Jerry

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Lazyman

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#5 posted 06-14-2018 08:08 PM

I just give away the bowls I make to friends and family and they always tell me I should sell them (not that they are necessarily good enough to sell IMO). I always tell them I don’t want to turn a hobby into a job, especially on a schedule. When my friends and family finally say they’ve got enough bowls, then I may think about selling them just so that they don’t stack up but I doubt that I would take special orders, except maybe from a short list of friends and family.

-- Nathan, TX -- Hire the lazy man. He may not do as much work but that's because he will find a better way.

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Jack Lewis

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#6 posted 06-14-2018 08:19 PM



I just give away the bowls I make to friends and family and they always tell me I should sell them (not that they are necessarily good enough to sell IMO). I always tell them I don t want to turn a hobby into a job, especially on a schedule. When my friends and family finally say they ve got enough bowls, then I may think about selling them just so that they don t stack up but I doubt that I would take special orders, except maybe from a short list of friends and family.

- Lazyman

I could have written your exact words and believe me it has taken me by surprise. They are stacking up in my house too.

-- "PLUMBER'S BUTT! Get over it, everybody has one"

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Jack Lewis

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#7 posted 06-14-2018 08:21 PM



Jack, looks like you re gonna have to install an AC.
The monsoons are coming, though. We ll still be hot but, at least it ll be a wet heat.
Nevertheless, congrats on the new J.O.B.

- Gene Howe


A/C is installed but nothing keeps up with AZ heat especially in a uninsulated shop. It was more fun before.

-- "PLUMBER'S BUTT! Get over it, everybody has one"

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Kazooman

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#8 posted 06-14-2018 08:41 PM


I just give away the bowls I make to friends and family and they always tell me I should sell them (not that they are necessarily good enough to sell IMO). I always tell them I don t want to turn a hobby into a job, especially on a schedule. When my friends and family finally say they ve got enough bowls, then I may think about selling them just so that they don t stack up but I doubt that I would take special orders, except maybe from a short list of friends and family.

- Lazyman

I could have written your exact words and believe me it has taken me by surprise. They are stacking up in my house too.

- Jack Lewis

My hobby philosophy as well. I have given away numerous jewelry boxes, chess boards, blanket chests, cutting boards, and other items. I made them for the enjoyment of the process, the sense of accomplishment when the piece is done, and for the fuzzy warm feeling I get when I present them to the new owner. Everyone says “you should sell these, you could make a fortune”. (In reality I don’t think they have any idea about the cost of materials or the amount of labor involved). I have no interest in turning a hobby into a second career. I know that many do use their woodworking to make a living and I am certain that they are very happy about the decision to do so. It’s just not for me.

I hope Jack gets his bowls finished before the real summer heat hits Phoenix! I have friends in Goodyear and others in Gold Canyon and I have experienced what he is going through on visits. Dry heat, my a$$. It is too darn hot to be working in an un-insulated shop.

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Aj2

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#9 posted 06-14-2018 08:45 PM

Jack that’s fantastic your attracted so much interest. Sometimes were hobbiest sometimes Amatuer professionals.
Petermans is a great place

-- Aj

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OSU55

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#10 posted 06-15-2018 12:08 AM

I only sell what has already been completed. An “order” doesnt have a set delivery date, $ is paid upfront and no cancellations, all cash, no trail. Helps keep it a hobby.

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woodbutcherbynight

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#11 posted 06-15-2018 03:30 AM

Myself I find just saying NO works really well. I appreciate the compliment that someone wants something I made but I have 5 lifetimes of my own stuff to get done. As others said Hobby = fun. Work = something I have to do to pay the bills.

LOL

-- Live to tell the stories, they sound better that way.

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Dustin

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#12 posted 06-15-2018 11:46 AM

I did two commissions last year, and one was a project larger than I had built before (...that I just realized I never posted here). It was super stressful, and turned my time in the shop into a chore.

Now I’m in the process of working on a small side/buffet table for some friends up the street. I made them a deal that if they understood it would take me several weeks and I couldn’t deliver a firm due date, I’d do it for just the cost of materials. They’ve been excited to see progress along the way, have never rushed me, and I’ve enjoyed every second of working on this one (even the whoopsies I had to fix).

-- "Ladies, if your husband says he'll get to it, he'll get to it. No need to remind him about it every 6 months."

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msinc

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#13 posted 06-15-2018 12:07 PM

HaHa….you guys think having woodworking tools and machines generate work? Go get yourself a sawmill!!!! I now have woodworking buddies {best friends forever?} I didn’t know existed!!!!!

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Lazyman

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#14 posted 06-15-2018 01:48 PM



HaHa….you guys think having woodworking tools and machines generate work? Go get yourself a sawmill!!!! I now have woodworking buddies {best friends forever?} I didn t know existed!!!!!

- msinc

Now that I know you have a mill, it is a good thing you don’t list your location on your LJ profile “buddy”.

-- Nathan, TX -- Hire the lazy man. He may not do as much work but that's because he will find a better way.

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RobHannon

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#15 posted 06-15-2018 01:58 PM

If the demand is too high, your price is too low.

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