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10-14-2018 12:59 PM

So the wife’s ok with the idea of me getting a drum sander… I can get a used perfomax 1632 with mobile stand and infeed/outfeed tables and additional paper for $600… Or a new supermax for like $1200… Is the supermax worth the $600 more?

Rich


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#1 posted 10-14-2018 01:23 PM

I personally wouldn’t get anything without a 3hp or bigger motor. IMO, 110 models just don’t have enough juice.

I have that same 1632 sitting in a barn collecting dust I’ll sell to you for 150$. Let’s just say I was highly disappointed.

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#2 posted 10-14-2018 01:27 PM

I bought the Supermax 16/32 earlier this year and very happy with it. It is a lot heavier than I expected and runs very well. I find the dust collection works well with my dust collector. Make certain you have a dust collector as it puts out lots of fine dust.

I had some questions putting it together. The customer service was excellent and even got a call back to see if everything was going OK. This was after Supermax had been acquired by Laguna.

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#3 posted 10-14-2018 01:29 PM

This would be strictly hobbyist use… Flags, cutting boards etc…

Rich


I personally wouldn’t get anything without a 3hp or bigger motor. IMO, 110 models just don’t have enough juice.

I have that same 1632 sitting in a barn collecting dust I’ll sell to you for 150$. Let’s just say I was highly disappointed.

- CWWoodworking


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#4 posted 10-14-2018 01:41 PM

CW is right about the HP issue/ If you want speed you need HP. I have a 16/32 (1 HP) and is has been excellent for the work I do, but it is very slow. I’ll probably spend 30 minutes surfacing a largish cutting board whereas a sander with more HP probably could cut that time to 10 minutes or less. I’d probably upgrade if I needed to save the time but I don’t.

Offhand I can’t think of any disadvantages to a larger sander over a small unit besides working with short or small pieces where the smaller unit could offer more control of the wood on the conveyor. Larger units do take more space and the price seems to go exponential with size.

If I was in your shoes, I’d snap up that 16/32 from CW and see how it fits with what you need. If it does’t, sell it for $600 and apply the gains to a larger unit 8^)

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#5 posted 10-14-2018 01:56 PM

Funny that I should see this post this morning. I’m driving to the Woodcraft in Allentown PA to pick up the SuperMax 19-38 in about an hour. I hadn’t given a thought about the strength of the motor, to be honest. Looks like it’s 110V, 1.75HP. I wonder if it could be wired for 220V.

At any rate, I’m a weekend woodworker, so I hope it will be fine. I’m getting the infeed/outfeed tables as well if they have them in stock.

The Performax sanders pop up on CL/FB, but I’ve convinced myself that I really want the SuperMax. I’ll post a new thread once I get it set up and offer my profoundly amateur opinion of it…lol

-- "Many folk like to know beforehand what is to be set on the table; but those who have laboured to prepare the feast like to keep their secret; for wonder makes the words of praise louder." -Gandalf

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#6 posted 10-14-2018 02:37 PM

Hey Rich I’m serious if you wanna give it a go, try mine. I’m in Indiana

I was a hobbyist too when I was using it. Seemed like no matter how light of pass I took, the motor breaker tripped. Eventually it needed rewound. It also seemed like it needed adjusting with ever use.

If you try to flatten cutting boards, I think you will be disappointed.

If you willing to spend 1200, your not that far away from a grizzly double drum. I know that reviews are mixed on that machine, but it has a 5hp motor. The 1632 and it are not even in the same stratosphere when it comes to power.

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#7 posted 10-14-2018 02:45 PM

I appreciate it… bit of a drive from FL though… The guy just said he’d take $500 for it… Might be worth it as a starter one.. Then sell it down the road if I need an upgrade…

Rich


Hey Rich I’m serious if you wanna give it a go, try mine. I’m in Indiana

I was a hobbyist too when I was using it. Seemed like no matter how light of pass I took, the motor breaker tripped. Eventually it needed rewound. It also seemed like it needed adjusting with ever use.

If you try to flatten cutting boards, I think you will be disappointed.

If you willing to spend 1200, your not that far away from a grizzly double drum. I know that reviews are mixed on that machine, but it has a 5hp motor. The 1632 and it are not even in the same stratosphere when it comes to power.

- CWWoodworking


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#8 posted 10-14-2018 04:22 PM

I bought the SuperMax 16/32 new a couple of months ago and have been very happy with it. I’m a hobbyist woodworker and haven’t run anything wider than about 12” through it yet. I’ve never had the motor breaker trip. It is a hugely useful tool for many tasks. I think you’re on a good path with the used Performax.

-- Gary, Wisconsin

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#9 posted 10-14-2018 06:59 PM



I appreciate it… bit of a drive from FL though… The guy just said he d take $500 for it… Might be worth it as a starter one..
- RichBolduc

Well shoot. Thought I could help. I cover 5 states, but don’t get that far. 500 isn’t a lot of money.

I have a Woodmaster coming next week. Anxiously waiting.

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#10 posted 10-14-2018 10:38 PM

CWWoodworking, I’d be interested in your 1632, I’d turn it into a table surface drum sander. I’m in South Dakota, will be in south eastern Minn. about a month from now.

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#11 posted 10-14-2018 10:48 PM

The conveyor belt needed to be swapped out on it so I got it for even less than the $500. Figure at that price it was a no brainer…

Rich

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#12 posted 10-15-2018 12:09 AM

I use my Jet 16/32 to sand CNC carving plaques to a very consistent thickness and it works very well for that. I have found you can take about 0.015” off at a time with 80 grit. That is about 1/64 inch. My machine is a newer model and the conveyor will slow the feed rate down rather than stall. I very seldom adjust the tracking. It is good if you understand its limitations.

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#13 posted 10-15-2018 01:48 AM

I”:ve a 16/32, seems to flatten cutting boards just fine, as noted, not a race sander, but gets the job done

i ran a large live edge sissoo, pc, thru it today, took me almost an hour to get it flat, but dang beats hand sanding, and it sure is purdy

i run my boards thru it to about 120, then finish them up with orbital, heckuva lot easier, this one sure beats the dickens outta my old delta, but it did a nice job also, just a lot slower.
best of luck with it, and drum sander is better than no drum sander,
jmo
Rj in az

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#14 posted 10-15-2018 02:17 AM

I guess I just gotta bad one. I’d run a small panel through it would barely touch it and the motor tripped. It did run better than new after the motor was rewound. But by that point I was so frustrated i just started taking my stuff to my suppliers and running it through their wide belt.

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#15 posted 10-15-2018 06:58 PM

I had issues with the breaker popping on my Performax 16/32 a while ago. It seems the factory breaker is only good for several “events” before it becomes overly sensitive. I replaced it with a higher quality unit and it hasn’t tripped since.

Another issue was the conveyor speed control (basically a light dimmer) fried its TRIAC, which was easy enough to replace (and sure beat paying the several $100 replacement part cost). The sign of failing was the speed “surging” while under load.

Some may consider these problems a sign of low quality, but given that the mechanical parts are still 100% I’d say it’s doing good for the $800/new price I paid a number of years back.

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