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SMP

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10-15-2018 04:18 PM

Hello all,

I have some old files that seem to be either clogged with metal that brushing wont remove or are dull in spots. When trying to use on a new card scraper I got, it seems to miss some spots and then the card scraper isn’t perfectly flat. Went to Home Depot but there is a ton of options on what style and cut, etc. But then I read these Nicholson files aren’t as good now that they aren’t made in the USA anymore.

https://www.homedepot.com/p/Nicholson-10-in-Bastard-Cut-Mill-File-21839/100148489

Can anyone recommend something or is this one ok for filing card scrapers, and tuning planes etc?

Thanks,
Steve


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BroncoBrian

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#1 posted 10-15-2018 04:20 PM

I am afraid you just started something…

Good question though.

-- I think they could take sesame seeds off the market and I wouldn't even care. I can't imagine five years from now saying, "Man, remember sesame seeds? What happened? All the buns are blank."

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TheFridge

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#2 posted 10-15-2018 04:29 PM

Nicholson’s are better than cheap trash files. They’re ok.

-- Shooting down the walls of heartache. Bang bang. I am. The warrior.

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JRsgarage

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#3 posted 10-15-2018 04:31 PM

For the card scraper, take a look at the Veritas variable burnisher. It takes all the guess work out and very simple to use

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Bill White

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#4 posted 10-15-2018 04:52 PM

The burnisher will not replace a file.
I have been able to locate some USA-made single cut files at a local (old time) hardware store here in Tupelo.
Check around in your area to see if you have such a store. They might just have what you need.
Also, check out file sharpening and cleaning vids on YouTube. I use a piece of copper pipe and some white vinegar. The pipe really helps to remove the metal junk stuck in the files, and the vinegar will etch/sharpen the teeth.
You will need a stone or diamond plate to smooth the edge before burnishing and turning the burr on the scraper.

-- bill@magraphics.us

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SMP

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#5 posted 10-15-2018 05:17 PM



For the card scraper, take a look at the Veritas variable burnisher. It takes all the guess work out and very simple to use

- JRsgarage

That does look appealing, I just looked at it Saturday, but $53 at my local shop, when I already have a Crown rod type burnisher is hard to justify.

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SMP

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#6 posted 10-15-2018 05:23 PM



The burnisher will not replace a file.
I have been able to locate some USA-made single cut files at a local (old time) hardware store here in Tupelo.
Check around in your area to see if you have such a store. They might just have what you need.
Also, check out file sharpening and cleaning vids on YouTube. I use a piece of copper pipe and some white vinegar. The pipe really helps to remove the metal junk stuck in the files, and the vinegar will etch/sharpen the teeth.
You will need a stone or diamond plate to smooth the edge before burnishing and turning the burr on the scraper.

- Bill White

Thanks for the tip, I’ll try out the youtube route to see if I can clean these old files I have.

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AlaskaGuy

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#7 posted 10-15-2018 05:27 PM

Watch some YouTube videos on card scraper sharpening. Watch several not just one. There more that one way to skin a cat.

https://youtu.be/hq881txBKSw

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=card+scrapers+woodworking

-- Alaskan's for Global warming!

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BroncoBrian

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#8 posted 10-15-2018 05:37 PM

Alaska Guy,

I did what you suggested and watched youtube videos about how to skin a cat. I am not sure how this helps…

Lol.

-- I think they could take sesame seeds off the market and I wouldn't even care. I can't imagine five years from now saying, "Man, remember sesame seeds? What happened? All the buns are blank."

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AlaskaGuy

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#9 posted 10-15-2018 06:00 PM



Alaska Guy,

I did what you suggested and watched youtube videos about how to skin a cat. I am not sure how this helps…

Lol.

- BroncoBrian


Sorry I couldn’t help

-- Alaskan's for Global warming!

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JRsgarage

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#10 posted 10-15-2018 06:06 PM

I’ve never had issues just flattening and deburring on my granite and sandpaper and going straight to the burnisher…but, I’m sure there are more proper/technical ways to go about it

-- Two is One, One is None

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MrRon

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#11 posted 10-15-2018 08:19 PM

Use a single cut fine flat file and use it by draw filing, that is, by holding the file at 90° to the card and filing by pushing the file away from you. Hold the file with both hands. After filing, you will still have to form the cutting edge with a burnisher.

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SMP

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#12 posted 10-18-2018 02:04 PM


The burnisher will not replace a file.
I have been able to locate some USA-made single cut files at a local (old time) hardware store here in Tupelo.
Check around in your area to see if you have such a store. They might just have what you need.
Also, check out file sharpening and cleaning vids on YouTube. I use a piece of copper pipe and some white vinegar. The pipe really helps to remove the metal junk stuck in the files, and the vinegar will etch/sharpen the teeth.
You will need a stone or diamond plate to smooth the edge before burnishing and turning the burr on the scraper.

- Bill White

Wanted to thank you again for these tips. I made a scraper out of some scrap copper pipe i had and tht really helped. There was some builup of black powder(carbon?) that th file brush wasn’t helping with but the copper got out a bunch of it. I attached a pic so you can see this black gunk kind of caked up, this is after i removed most of it, the files are different colors now! Now they are sitting in a tub of vinegar for a couple days. (Pro tip: do NOT get vinegar on any cuts you have, ouch)

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TheFridge

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#13 posted 10-18-2018 02:27 PM

Alaska Guy,

I did what you suggested and watched youtube videos about how to skin a cat. I am not sure how this helps…

Lol.

- BroncoBrian

Sorry I couldn t help

- AlaskaGuy

I don’t know what to say. I don’t think funny quite covers it. I laughed like a little schoolboy.

Solid advice from bill

-- Shooting down the walls of heartache. Bang bang. I am. The warrior.

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shampeon

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#14 posted 10-18-2018 02:52 PM

I cut a slot in an offcut 2×4 to hold the file at 90, and run the scraper against the face of the wood against the file. Most of the time I don’t bother burnishing: you can just start using it after jointing the edge.

-- ian | "You can't stop what's coming. It ain't all waiting on you. That's vanity."

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AlaskaGuy

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#15 posted 10-18-2018 05:45 PM


Alaska Guy,

I did what you suggested and watched youtube videos about how to skin a cat. I am not sure how this helps…

Lol.

- BroncoBrian

Sorry I couldn t help

- AlaskaGuy

I don’t know what to say. I don’t think funny quite covers it. I laughed like a little schoolboy.

Solid advice from bill

- TheFridge


Maybe you had too many

-- Alaskan's for Global warming!

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