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10-20-2018 05:52 PM

Topic tags/keywords: saw back saw tenon saw gray sons antique

I’ve come across a Gray & Sons back saw, in quite good condition. The thing is, it’s too nice (& rare) a tool for an amateur like myself to feel comfortable using, so I will probably end up selling it. Does anyone know this maker well? There’s not a ton of information on the web. What price range should I be asking for it?

It’s 10”, 17tpi crosscut, and other than the maker’s stamp on the back it is stamped “warranted cast steel”, and “TRY” with a fleur de lis above it (?). The etching on the blade dates it to 1862. The blade is straight with no pitting, and enough height to be sharpened a number of times. The handle is in good shape, fully intact with one repaired crack to a lower horn. It sits a bit loose on the blade at the moment, having 2 (split-nut) screws rather than 3.


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#1 posted 10-20-2018 06:09 PM

Pictures or it doesn’t exist.
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(We like pictures.)

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#2 posted 10-20-2018 06:30 PM

Ditto x2

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#6 posted 10-20-2018 08:54 PM

Haven’t gotten around to cleaning it yet, obviously.

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#7 posted 10-20-2018 10:39 PM

Wow, that’s nice! I’d start by suggesting you let the would-be buyer do any cleanup or restoration. Thanks for the pics. Best LJ saw resources for old pieces like yours include Bob Summerfield and Andy, so hopefully they’ll stop by and provide some input for you.

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#8 posted 10-20-2018 10:47 PM

Thanks, that’s a fair point. My impulse is that cleaned up means more desirable, but I suppose there’s no reason for a buyer to trust my ability with restoration.

If no one buys it in the short term, I’ll probably have to gently clean off at least the red rust so it can stay in the shape it’s in.

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#9 posted 10-20-2018 11:22 PM

Wow! Very nice saw… I agree, a collector piece, not a user. I know several collectors of saws thru the Midwest Tool Collectors Assn. A saw of that age in that condition should NOT be cleaned or “restored” it has more value to a collector as is, undisturbed. Over cleaning, sanding off the original finish on the handle, sharpening etc. will make it just another old user saw…

$.02 from Kentucky…

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#10 posted 10-21-2018 03:31 AM

Ditto. My rule of thumb. If it has split nuts, I don’t touch it I’m not keeping it.

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#11 posted 10-21-2018 04:02 AM

Fridge, your missing out on some good users thinking like that. Not everything with a split nut is a collectible. Keep in mind the British saw makers continued using them long after US makers went to the new styles.

Wild, check with Bob Summerfield on the rarity of that saw. It sure does look good.

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#12 posted 10-21-2018 12:59 PM

Durp…

I meant: if it has split nuts, I won’t clean it if I’m not keeping it.

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#13 posted 10-21-2018 05:17 PM

gotcha Fridge, I stand corrected.

-- "With every tool obtained, there is another that is needed" DonW ( Kevin )

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#14 posted 10-21-2018 06:13 PM

It is I who needed the correction good sir. I wish I could have split nuts galore :)

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#15 posted 10-21-2018 06:40 PM



It is I who needed the correction good sir. I wish I could have split nuts galore :)

- TheFridge

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